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Spin Zone / Re: Trump v DeSantis 2024
« on: March 29, 2023, 06:28:22 AM »
"If Trump strokes out".
It is a distinct possibility that this, or something worse, may happen in then next 5 or 6 years.
Alphas, especially older ones,  have more heart attacks and strokes, and Presidents (and Presidential candidates) have a lot of stress.

I’m not going to not vote for him just because he might stroke out while in office. That’s what a VP is for.

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Spin Zone / Re: Trump v DeSantis 2024
« on: March 28, 2023, 05:33:23 PM »
I’m not upset with DeSantis.  I just said I understand why Trump would be.  I’ll vote for DeSantis if he runs and wins the primary or if Trump strokes out or something.

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Spin Zone / Re: The Weaponization of FedGov
« on: March 28, 2023, 10:22:29 AM »
It was a blatant message.  Testify about weaponizing the feds and we will openly weaponize the feds against you.  What are you gonna do about it? 

And the Republicans will do nothing.

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Spin Zone / Re: Questions Without Answers About Ukraine
« on: March 27, 2023, 05:21:40 PM »
Stan, go campaign for DeSantis if he runs, whatever. Put up “Trump’s Time is Past” signs, whatever. It’s a semi-free country, and I’m sure no cabal or globalists will come after you, because they’re fine with Anybody But Trump.

The trouble is, Stan, elwoodblues is absolutely correct in the post above.

Pretending that elections matter now is like painting the house when the plumbing and wiring are shot and the foundation is crumbling.

There may be someone out there better than Trump, but DeSantis isn’t that person.

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Spin Zone / Re: Questions Without Answers About Ukraine
« on: March 27, 2023, 05:05:06 PM »
Do you deny Trump 2023 is different than Trump 2016? 

I don't see how he's different.  Please enlighten me on how he has changed -- not your perspective of him, but how he has actually changed.

I campaigned for Cruz in 2016, and Cruz won Wisconsin.

So did I, but I'm glad he didn't win.

I campaigned for Trump in 2016.

Ditto.

I campaigned for Trump in 2020.

Ditto.

I now think Trump is damaged goods, and while he will lock up the 1/3rd that are GOP faithful, he will not get the middle third, who probably don’t want to back a guy who is living in the past, obsessing with 2020 and ignoring 2024-2028.

I'm obsessed with 2020.  Do you not grasp the significance and impact of having an election stolen?  And it was stolen.


I also want a guy who can give me two back-to-back terms, and who is a successful conservative governor who turned a purple state red.

Trump gave you back-to-back terms, one of which was stolen by the establishment.

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Spin Zone / Re: Trump arrested
« on: March 27, 2023, 11:35:54 AM »
I have no desire for social intercourse with a bully.  None.

Do you not see the irony here?

No, of course not.

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Spin Zone / Re: Questions Without Answers About Ukraine
« on: March 27, 2023, 11:31:42 AM »
But I think if he does get the nomination, it guarantees a D will win.

That's exactly what the talking heads said in 2016.


A "D" will win no matter who the "R's" nominate because the "R's" still refuse to openly acknowledge voter fraud as they're a part of it; because they've found they can benefit from and increase their power from that fraud.

We have been betrayed.

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Spin Zone / Re: Biden's Lies
« on: March 27, 2023, 09:17:42 AM »
I have a morning routine of news sites: Fox, local, Breitbart, Politico, Huffpost, Pilot Spin, Daily Mail Online, CNN.  I figure between all those sites I get a fairly good cross section of what's what.  And what the enemy is thinking.

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Spin Zone / Re: Questions Without Answers About Ukraine
« on: March 27, 2023, 07:10:34 AM »
You’re going to play that card?  I thought we were past that. Locker room talk.  And he was talking about adults.  Trump is in his 70s.  His day was back when we didn’t have the lunacy of needing to get verbal permission before making a pass at a woman.  It was normal to do what he said.  (In the context of already making out - not just walking past you on the street.)  I’ve had guys do that back in the day and my reaction was to simply tell them to piss off which they did.  I didn’t see it as sexual assault and get all traumatized.  If they didn’t leave off, then that would have been sexual assault.  Trump’s comment made it clear these women were consenting if not inviting.

Well of course. This is such a tired trope, and it’s where the ridiculous “pussy” hats came from. Probably millions of shocked liberal women learned to knit those just so they could scream about a normal alpha male saying he “can” do something, not that he DID something.

In other conversations, which the media doesn’t show, President Trump has talked about the women who literally trailed around trying to catch his eye. “Gold diggers” is the euphemism but “star fuckers” is the trade name.

Going nuclear with shock over alpha male behavior just leads to gammas, betas, grifters and cheaters taking over the country. As we see happening.

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Spin Zone / Re: Questions Without Answers About Ukraine
« on: March 27, 2023, 04:31:48 AM »
It's not a matter of me playing that card.  I voted for him TWICE, even after that quote was disclosed.  It is just that that is the type of reason that so many people hate Trump and why I don't believe he can win.

To ignore facts you don't like is folly.  (That is the card that I play).  Just as not liking or trusting anyone that Trump is afraid of is folly.

Oh okay, you’re saying other people would not vote for him because of that.  Well it didn’t hurt him in 2020. 

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Spin Zone / Re: Questions Without Answers About Ukraine
« on: March 27, 2023, 04:18:57 AM »
Liz Cheney is definitely worse than any Democrat.  If she were a D then people would just listen to her BS and realize that of course a D will do and say those things about Trump.  But when an R says and does those things, Ds and Is and even many Rs will say "Oh shit!  If an R says it about another R, it must be true".  This is one of the main reasons that Trump is so damaged and cannot/will not ever win another general election and why we must find another candidate that CAN win.

But it's not all Liz's fault.  I know libs that would vote for a Republican that they perceive to be honest over Biden.  That is NOT Trump.  And it's not all Liz Cheney's fault and it not all due to cheating.

Trump didn't just SAY pussy, he said that when you are a star you can grab them by the pussy. 
I doubt even Rush or Becky would agree with that statement, at it stands.
And he sounds an awful lot like Uncle Joe with the kissing remark.

You’re going to play that card?  I thought we were past that. Locker room talk.  And he was talking about adults.  Trump is in his 70s.  His day was back when we didn’t have the lunacy of needing to get verbal permission before making a pass at a woman.  It was normal to do what he said.  (In the context of already making out - not just walking past you on the street.)  I’ve had guys do that back in the day and my reaction was to simply tell them to piss off which they did.  I didn’t see it as sexual assault and get all traumatized.  If they didn’t leave off, then that would have been sexual assault.  Trump’s comment made it clear these women were consenting if not inviting.


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Spin Zone / Re: Trump arrested
« on: March 25, 2023, 01:00:42 PM »
But it only takes one person to shit in the pool to make others want to get out.

The analogy fails because unlike the pool, here we can simply choose to skip past certain posts.  No one is forcing anyone to read all posts.


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Spin Zone / Re: Trump arrested
« on: March 25, 2023, 08:59:35 AM »
I'm sure it's more fun at The Pilots Place. Brian is a die hard progressive and attracts the same to his political forum.  He used to be on the Purple Board but got Butt Hurt about something and left. He tends to do that when he doesn't get his way.

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Spin Zone / Re: Trump arrested
« on: March 25, 2023, 06:57:59 AM »
According to you nimrods anyone who doesn't follow your Right Wing party line is either:
  • mentally ill
  • out of touch with reality
  • part of some cabal

According to you all there is only one side, and that's your party line.  That's why you don't see me here much anymore, nor anyone else.  That's why very few stick around long.  That's why this site is so dead. I hope you enjoy your stupid little echo chamber, and keep feeding the bully.
A major problem is that we never hear from the other side.  Those of that side that come here put out what appear to be party line talking points but when challenged with actual facts go full fascist and lash out with personal attacks.  Once they do that, facts can't make any progress, reason fails, and they get return fire.  And immediately they claim that they are suppressed, oppressed, we're a bunch of nasty Nazis and disappear.  The other side never tries to put forth a reasonable argument supporting their position.  I do appreciate that you're here.  Just lighten up, Francis.

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Spin Zone / Re: Trump v DeSantis 2024
« on: March 24, 2023, 01:56:26 PM »
Waiting to see Vivek get some traction.  At least he's out talking about he wants to accomplish.

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