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Spin Zone / Re: January 6
« on: January 06, 2021, 06:03:49 PM »both of my comments were to lucifer
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both of my comments were to lucifer
The Dems haven't been my party or my family's party since probably about Lincoln's time, but after today, being a lover of our republic, I will be joining the Democrat party.
TRump finally jumped the shark.... Sedition and revolution failed.... Moscow Mitch out.
Lies repeated over and over do not make it true.
Consider the possibility your views on the republicans and democrats are in fact incorrect.
Consider we need to weed out the democratic and republican extremists .. tea party to antifa.
Perhaps we should work to re-develop the rule of law, fewer goofy laws, end the Citizens United money emphasis,
enforced immigration (and Visas), punish employers that hire undocumented and send technology to those who wish to destabilize our way of life.
If you are sure of your facts you may have been co-opted -- and you are smarter than that.
Got evidence? Without evidence, this is dead air. Of course, I have been watching all day and didn't see what colored person. This was a white revolution.
Got evidence? Only about 90 judges, some appointed by Trump, saw no material evidence. The Dems haven't been my party or my family's party since probably about Lincoln's time, but after today, being a lover of our republic, I will be joining the Democrat party.
I will remember this so I can rub it in your face when your delusions become the dust of history.
Trump's base is seeking to destroy our democratic republic. They need crapping on. What will happen is that in 2022, Trump's automatons, will nominate senatorial candidates who will advocate the destruction of America. They will then be crushed in the general election, further cementing the Dem's control of the levers of power.
You obviously had a lot of trouble with math. Off the top of my head, that is about 25% of the population.
Simple, no evidence of stealing, in either election. The closest we got was Russian interference on Trump's behalf in 2016. I think that the Russians realized their mistake and laid off this election.
That thing has been circulating for years. Here is it posted from 2017:
https://studio1776.org/2017/11/04/leaked-the-antifa-manual-harrisburg100
Do you notice we suddenly have leftists coming out of the woodwork now.
Is that really what you want?
What provision of the Constitution was violated with universal mail in ballots?
The only thugs I see are hanging off the capital as I type this.
Are you all tired of winning yet?
Dems have Congress, the White House,
80+
the GOP is divided, and a minority is trying to destroy our republic.
I told you years ago, that Trump was going to destroy the GOP and give power to the Dems. Good job guys!
Depending on the social circles and news sources one fancies, the 2020 election was either hijacked by fraud and irregularities, or so well run that its outcome is not in doubt and any claims to the contrary are, in the words of some reporters, "baseless."
But if we've learned one lesson in the era of incessant cable TV and social media, it's that the truth can't be hurried — and the sensationalized early headlines are often deceiving.
Remember, Trump colluded with Russia … until he didn't. And Jacob Blake was declared shot unarmed … when in fact he was armed with a knife. And let's not forget that Hunter Biden's business scandal was Russian disinformation … until he admitted he was under criminal investigation.
That is why more than 100 state legislators from the battleground states of Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Arizona and Georgia sent an 11th hour letter Tuesday to Vice President Mike Pence saying they are not yet confident in the declarations that Joe Biden won their state and want 10 days to investigate further.
That's a large bloc, yes all Republican, but one that shouldn't be ignored when their letter includes a massive index of evidence of irregularities, some of which have been validated by court rulings, official government documents or sworn affidavits.
Just the News worked with more than three dozen journalists across the country for eight weeks trying to investigate claims of irregularities. Many got dismissed, but some were substantially documented by courts, election officials or testimony.
Here are some of the voting irregularities that the Just the News election integrity project documented:
Wisconsin illegally permitted large numbers of residents to evade voter ID requirements by simply declaring they were "indefinitely confined" at home because of COVID-19. Wisconsin's Supreme Court ruled in December that state officials violated the law when they allowed this mass exemption without getting required legislative approval, putting in doubt as many as 200,000 votes in a state where Biden and President Trump were separated by 200,000.
Officials in Fulton County, Georgia, home of the city of Atlanta, prematurely moved data cards from 36 voting machines before voting ended. State officials had advised the county that the cards should be removed just before they reached 10,000 votes, the apparent storage limit for the cards, but county officials admit they removed cards with as few as 3,000 counted votes and locked them in a cabinet. The exact reasons and chain of custody are not fully clear.
Jessy Jacob, a career Detroit city employee with three decades of experience, testified both in an affidavit and at a legislative hearing that for weeks leading to Election Day and at least one full day after, she and her fellow election workers were instructed to manipulate and alter ballots and voter rolls, including falsely backdating ballot requests and actual ballots. City officials have not provided evidence to contest her claims.
Multiple GOP election observers in states like Georgia, Michigan and Pennsylvania have testified they were wrongly dismissed on election night or kept from being able to provide bipartisan oversight as has been required and embraced for decades.
Wisconsin did not, as required by state law, purge between 100,000 and 200,000 outdated voter registrations from its rolls before the November contest as had been done in prior elections. Litigation concerning this oversight is ongoing.
Georgia state officials acknowledged last month they have 250 open cases of alleged voter fraud or irregularities from the 2020 election and rolled in additional state investigators to help.
In Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania, state election officials allowed county clerks to "cure" or "fix" errant ballots without rejecting them though the state legislatures had not approved such mechanisms. Some counties engaged in "curing" while others did not, fearful such activity was illegal.
There are numerous other claims, like those of the Data Integrity Group, who have offered analyses of vote count irregularities, as well as videotape of apparent ballots in suitcases or trucks that have not been fully explained or investigated.
But those irregularities that have already been documented give many state legislators heartburn and a desire to investigate further in the new year as to whether the documented problems could have changed the outcomes. Wisconsin, in particular, is gaining momentum for further investigations
"We know laws were broken," Wisconsin State Rep. Joe Sanfelippo said in an interview Tuesday. "That's indisputable. What we don't know is whether the breaking of those laws affected the outcome of the election."
Sanfelippo said that is why he and other lawmakers are asking Pence for a week to 10-day delay to investigate.
"The U.S. Constitution gives us authority to determine how elections are run," he said. "All of that assumes the law is going to be followed by those who implement it. And now that we know the law wasn't followed in this election, so as state legislators is it up to us to determine did that have any effect on the outcome, to hold those people who didn't follow the law accountable and to make sure in the future those laws are followed."
That ship sailed when Democrat states bought Dominion vote machines and then broke constitutional law with universal mail in ballots.
Democrats are unethical thugs period. And this is now a regime of thugs. Enjoy.
I'd hardly call it betrayal to not invent new powers out of nothing. There's nothing in the Constitution which suggests that during the electoral vote presentation to Congress there is any power of review by anyone, the VP or Congress. It's a ceremony, the votes are reported to Congress and they are told who the next president is. They don't ratify it, it's notification.
The United States looks like a third world government.
Senate will be split 50/50. Who gets elected as Senate Majority leader? If everything is certified before the 20th isn't Pence the tie breaking vote?
So Biden said if his folks were elected here in Georgia everyone would get $2k. Is that LEGAL vote buying?