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20161
Spin Zone / Re: Question for the Trumpkins?
« on: February 05, 2016, 11:32:40 AM »
Quote from: Anthony on February 05, 2016, 10:41:20 AM
I want a leader, and a manager.  Someone that has had to make executive decisions in which their performance is measured.  Senators don't have to make decisions.  They can vote, or they can not vote.  Obama was great at that.  I would rather have a Governor or CEO as President.  That being said, I am in the Cruz camp right now.  I don't trust Trump on the 2A.  He's a New Yorker.

Cruz has already shown he will use deception to get what he wants.  Sorry, he reminds me of a 1930's bible salesman.

20162
Spin Zone / Re: Stand Down
« on: February 05, 2016, 07:44:47 AM »
Quote from: Anthony on February 04, 2016, 09:27:45 PM
Valerie Jarrett is de debil.

Hell no!   We don't want that bitch down here!

20163
Spin Zone / Re: Obama proposes $10/barrel oil tax
« on: February 05, 2016, 07:33:31 AM »
Wonder if he'll push this through using executive order?

Oh wait, he won't have to!  Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell will push it through for him.

20164
Spin Zone / Re: Jaybird Is Worthy
« on: February 05, 2016, 07:02:07 AM »

20165
Spin Zone / Re: Stand Down
« on: February 04, 2016, 04:50:51 PM »
Quote from: Anthony on February 04, 2016, 04:32:57 PM
We are no longer a sovereign state, but just a land mass with people, and things.  Why did our fathers and grand fathers die in Vietnam, Europe, Korea, and other locations around the globe?  Illegal immigrants are invading, and we aren't doing anything to protect the legal citizens of America. 

Thanks Obama.

 Not illegal immigrants, they are "potential democratic voters".

 Someone needs to tell Obama that a poll was done on the illegals and they are voting republican.  He'll close the borders tomorrow.

20166
Spin Zone / Stand Down
« on: February 04, 2016, 04:19:42 PM »
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/border-agent-we-might-as-well-abolish-our-immigration-laws-altogether/article/2582401

20167
Spin Zone / Re: Bernie
« on: February 04, 2016, 04:16:59 PM »
Quote from: JeffDG on February 03, 2016, 10:31:29 PM

Haven't you noticed the new rules?


If the President proposes something, say "Immigration Reform" to Congress, and Congress either doesn't act (ala Gang of 8) or affirmatively votes it down (DREAM Act), then that empowers the President to just implement the proposal anyway (DACA) because "Congress failed to act"

 Yep, thanks to Boehner/McConnell and now Paul Ryan, who refuse to uphold their constitutional duties and let the President go rogue.

20168
Spin Zone / Re: Tactics
« on: February 04, 2016, 09:06:57 AM »
Damn, why don't we just resort to doing elections the way the old USSR, Cuba, China and North Korea do them?  :o

20169
Spin Zone / Re: What will the final republican ticket be? Feb 2016 Predictions
« on: February 04, 2016, 07:37:11 AM »
Quote from: pilot_dude on February 04, 2016, 07:19:29 AM
Rubio/X.  Cruz can't win as long as he keeps turning on his TV evangelist shtick.  I'm a Christian and find his act tiresome and loathsome.  I can't imagine anyone but the ever shrinking evangelical folks voting for him.  Now, if he quits with the shtick, it may be a different story altogether.

One could only imagine the theatrics a President Cruz would try to use in a real crisis.

You're right, the more you see of him, the less there is too like.

20170
Spin Zone / Re: What will the final republican ticket be? Feb 2016 Predictions
« on: February 03, 2016, 08:25:46 PM »
Quote from: EppyGA on February 03, 2016, 08:02:52 PM
Becoming quite apparent that Rubio is now Fox's choice.

The DNC is praying its Rubio.

20171
Spin Zone / Re: Hawkeye Caucuses
« on: February 03, 2016, 10:03:25 AM »
Quote from: JeffDG on February 03, 2016, 09:59:20 AM

Well, except for the fact that he DID disclose, just on the wrong form.

Oh no!!! Please! Please! Make it stop!,,,

LOL!

20172
Spin Zone / Re: Hawkeye Caucuses
« on: February 03, 2016, 09:56:28 AM »
Quote from: nddons on February 03, 2016, 09:47:27 AM
Asked, and answered. He was born to an American mother.  The loans were disclosed in his legal Senate disclosures, just not separately with the FEC.

Quit playing naive.  You know that several people in the DNC was proposing lawsuits to answer the natural born citizen question, and that legal scholars admitted its never been taken to the high courts, which could potentially jeopardize his campaign.

As for the loans? Sorry, if you are running for president, no excuse for not disclosing.

20173
Spin Zone / Re: Hawkeye Caucuses
« on: February 03, 2016, 09:41:57 AM »
Quote from: nddons on February 03, 2016, 09:38:51 AM
You mean dirty games like the birther or loan lies that Trump used to hammer Cruz before the Iowa caucuses?

So Cruz wasn't born in Canada, and there has never, ever been any question on what a natural born citizen means?  And no one has talked about filing lawsuits about it?

 And Cruz never took out loans and never disclosed them?

 Really?

20174
Spin Zone / Re: Hawkeye Caucuses
« on: February 03, 2016, 09:24:05 AM »
Quote from: nddons on February 03, 2016, 09:19:39 AM
Rubio admits that the Gang of Eight was a mistake. No candidate survives a conservative purity test in this race.

Rubio's not my top choice, but he's a very, very strong second choice, for two main reasons:

1).  He's the most articulate and well spoken of our candidates, and does the best job espousing conservative ideals and projecting an optimistic outlook for the country. I therefore think he has the best chance of beating Hitlery.

2). He endorses an Article V Convention of the States to create a Constitutional Balanced Budget Amendment and an Amendment for term limits of Congress and the Supremes.

He can endorse an Article V convention all he wants, problem is it's meaningless. The state's have to call and vote for the convention, which is not going to happen.  And term limits for Congress?   Nice try getting that through.

 Sorry, I'm a realist. The facts just don't back any of this up.

20175
Spin Zone / Re: Hawkeye Caucuses
« on: February 03, 2016, 09:20:43 AM »
Quote from: acrogimp on February 03, 2016, 08:26:34 AM
After the official looking 'Voting Violation' document, his outright refusal to apologize for it - and his campaigns move with respect to the CNN story about Carson then no, Trump isn't whining he is pointing out dirty tricks.

I don't like nor trust Cruz, he sets off all my warning bells and I can't put my finger on why even though he says many of the right things. 

He has definitely had position flops that are substantive and troubling for someone claiming to be a 'consistent' conservative - at this point unless the shenanigans in Iowa prove to be totally inaccurate (unlikely since he has already acknowledged and apologized to Carson for what actually happened, and refused to apologize  for the Voting Fraud thing) I simply can't vote for him.

'Gimp

Edited to clarify on Voter Document


Exactly.  Just imagine if Trump had played the dirty games Cruz had in Iowa, certain people would be foaming at the mouth right now.

Iowa has confirmed my feelings about Cruz.

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