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Spin Zone / Re: Question for the Trumpkins?
« on: February 02, 2016, 05:32:26 PM »Depends on what Chapter he filed under.
Yea, God forbid anyone to follow the laws as written.
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Depends on what Chapter he filed under.
You mean when Cruz sent a CNN story to his volunteers? That campaign fraud?
His explanation is more credible than Trumps claims of conservatism.
Cruz tactics in Iowa are despicable as now being related, inexcusable and disqualifying in my mind.
'Gimp
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/02/01/official-withheld-clinton-emails-contain-operational-intel-put-lives-at-risk.html
How the hell can she survive this?
You haven't been around here long, have you? Are you expecting me to respond re: Obama? Nice try.
So you haven't heard Trump speak about the Constitution or limited government either, correct?
That is the depth of Trump's rhetoric. I've watched every debate this year, and never heard him use the words "Constitution" or "limited government." It's very disappointing.
Jeff I have been holding off for a while but you still have not acknowledged that this is a strawman argument.
As far as I can recall, nobody here, before your question, was calling Trump a true conservative - I know I haven't.
As for people saying one thing when campaigning and doing another if/when elected show me one person who has not 'matured' a position - not Cruz, not Rubio, not any of them.
None of them are ideologically pure or truly principled from a Conservatism standpoint, not one.
I get it, you don't like Trump, the petty name calling (Trumpkins), the endless links to anti-Trump stuff - OK.
I just wish that those of us on the Right would spend more time formulating a strategy of exposing and defeating the failures of the Left rather than forming a circular firing squad to torpedo the top two candidates on our own freaking side.
Imagine if we spent even half the energy currently being invested in bashing Trump or Cruz on educating the middle and left-of-center voters on who is actually responsible for their suffering and powerfully and positively espousing conservative ideals (no matter how recently acquired).
I think people still totally fail to understand the Trump approach and continue to try and use conventional campaign thinking an conventional campaign tactics on a clearly asymmetric campaign - like sending an Aircraft Carrier after 6 Somali pirates in a dinghy with a 40hp Evinrude.
And as a reminder, I am not a Trump supporter, not supporting his campaign with dollars or time - I am only voting 'FOR' this time, voting against is a waste and keeps the elites in power. If they can't produce a candidate and campaign I want to vote for I am not voting. I could vote for Trump if he is the candidate, but that is a ways off yet.
'Gimp
After 7 years of an extreme narcissistic in the White House, you want to put another one in.
Our resident Trumpkin is long on deflection and character assassination, short on actual answers to questions.
Ahhh...so when Bob Dole (about as establishment as it gets) supports him as "someone we can deal with" that's just them not knowing anything, it's not that they understand that Trump has no actual principles that will hold him to any position, so he'll be free to cut a deal.
The establishment dislikes Trump, but know they can deal with him. They fear Cruz, because they know he actually has principles, something Trump is wholly unencumbered by.
Have you been watching the news? The Republican establishment is all-in for Trump now. He's cut his deal with them already. His whole campaign is about him being able to cut deals.
So...I, as a non-voter, am required to maintain the same standards as a candidate for the Presidency of the United States? Interesting...
Actually, I think it's more of you "can't" not that you "choose" not to. I'm not asking for a demonstration of conservative purity here, I'm asking for one single example of him advocating for a conservative policy, from someone who wishes to represent the conservative party. I think that's just about the absolute bare minimum.