Thanks for the logical and calming words.  And thanks for not ripping in to me.

But I'm still not convinced one way or the other.  Believe it or not, I am willing to listen to both sides, but we do have a problem.  Perhaps Archie Bunker was right when he said the way to stop airliner hijackings (very popular in the '60s) was to "arm all the passengers.  I don't know if that is a good idea on an airliner, but maybe arming the teachers (or at least allowing trained volunteer teachers to be armed) would get the killers out of the schools (and into the churches, or other gun free zones).

Mass shootings are a problem.  What is a solution that works? "Just enforce all the current rules" is not working and won't work.

 "Gun Free Zones" are an invitation for mass shootings. Why?  The shooter knows no one will shoot back.

 Also, if you want to see how well gun control works, just go to the heavy liberal bastions of the US that have very strict gun control (Chicago, Detroit, LA, NY, etc) and see how well it's working there.

 Back to the mouth foaming progressives and their MSM.  Notice when a shooter is taken out by a gun carrying citizen those stories get buried? 

Nothing is "spinning out of control" except for mouth foaming progressives and their MSM.

When looking at statistics on gun related crimes the US is really not as bad as the progressives and MSM make it out to be.  And in countries with very strict gun ownership laws the criminals are still using guns.

 The latest school killing boils down to this:  Multiple reports were made to the police and the FBI about this individual, yet they failed to respond adequately.  Also involved in this latest crime was the perpetrator was on various prescription drugs for a mental condition which made him unstable.

 This kid, if he didn't have access to guns, could have just as easily rented a truck and driven over people as they were leaving the building, or he could have made a pressure cooker bomb (or something similar) and inflicted damage and death.

 The problem is not the guns.

I had trouble following the all caps.

What laws are they accused of breaking?  Title and section?

The text of the actual indictment is in the second post link.

The question everyone and anyone should ask is, “Where the hell was the DOJ.”

Working on an insurance policy.

In other future news, the Russians will be indicting the Americans who ran Radio Free Europe and Voice of America for their transmissions that meddled in Russian elections.

 And BHO who, using taxpayer funds, meddled in the Israeli elections attempting to oust Netanyahu.

 And the US meddling in the elections of Guatemala, Brazil, El Salvador, Haiti, Panama, Israel, Lebanon, Iran, Greece, Italy, Malta, Slovakia, Romania, Bulgaria, Albania, Sri Lanka, the Philippines, South Vietnam and Japan.

 https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/americas-long-history-of-meddling-in-other-countries-elections

I'm totally shocked.  Millions of dollars spent by the DoJ to find out there are people on the internet pretending to be something they aren't.

Totally shocked!

MR. ROSENSTEIN: GOOD AFTERNOON. AN INDICTMENT TODAY WAS RETURNED TO BUY THE SPECIAL COUNSEL'S OFFICE, CHARGING 13 RUSSIAN NATIONALS AND THREE RUSSIAN COMPANIES FOR COMMITTING FEDERAL CRIMES WHILE SEEKING TO INTERFERE IN THE UNITED STATES POLITICAL SYSTEM, INCLUDING THE 2016 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION. THE DEFENDANTS ALLEGEDLY CONDUCTED WHAT THEY CALLED INFORMATION WARFARE AGAINST THE UNITED STATES WITH THE STATED GOAL OF SPREADING DISTRUST TOWARD THE CANDIDATES AND THE POLITICAL SYSTEM IN GENERAL. ACCORDING TO THE ALLEGATIONS IN THE INDICTMENT, 12 OF THE INDIVIDUAL DEFENDANTS WORKED AT VARIOUS TIMES FOR A COMPANY CALLED INTERNET RESEARCH AGENCY LLC, A RUSSIAN-BASED COMPANY IN ST. PETERSBURG. OTHERS TARGETING FOREIGN AUDIENCES IN MULTIPLE COUNTRIES. INTERNET RESEARCH AGENCY ALLEGEDLY -- ALLEGEDLY OPERATED THROUGH RUSSIAN SHELL COMPANIES, EMPLOYED HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE AND ONLINE OPERATIONS, RANGING FROM CREATORS OF FICTITIOUS PERSONAS TO TECHNICAL AND ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT PERSONNEL WITH AN ANNUAL BUDGET OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. INTERNET RESEARCH AGENCY WITH A STRUCTURE ORGANIZATION ARRANGED INTO DEPARTMENTS, INCLUDING GRAPHICS, SEARCH ENGINE OPTIMIZATION, INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY, AND FINANCE DEPARTMENTS. IN 2014, THE COMPANY ESTABLISHED A TRANSMITTER PROJECT FOCUSED ON THE UNITED STATES. IN JULY OF 2016, MORE THAN 80 EMPLOYEES WERE ASSIGNED TO THE TRANSLATOR PROJECT. TWO OF THE DEFENDANTS ALLEGEDLY TRAVELED TO THE UNITED STATES IN 2014 TO COLLECT INTELLIGENCE FOR THEIR AMERICAN INFLUENCE OPERATIONS. IN ORDER TO HIDE THE RUSSIAN ORIGINS OF THEIR ACTIVITIES, THE DEFENDANTS ALLEGEDLY ARE JUST AND COMPUTER SERVERS LOCATED HERE IN THE UNITED STATES TO SET UP A VIRTUAL PRIVATE NETWORK. THE DEFENDANTS ALLEGEDLY USED OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE TO ESTABLISH HUNDREDS OF ACCOUNTS ON SOCIAL MEDIA NETWORKS SUCH AS FACEBOOK, INSTAGRAM, AND TWITTER, MAKING IT APPEAR THAT THOSE ACCOUNTS WERE CONTROLLED BY PERSONS LOCATED IN THE UNITED STATES. THEY USED STOLEN OR FICTITIOUS AMERICAN IDENTITIES, FRAUDULENT BANK ACCOUNTS, AND FALSE IDENTIFICATION DOCUMENTS. THEY POSED AS POLITICALLY AND SOCIALLY ACTIVE AMERICANS, ADVOCATING FOR AND AGAINST PARTICULAR CANDIDATES. THEY ESTABLISHED SOCIAL MEDIA PAGES AND GROUPS TO COMMUNICATE WITH UNWITTING AMERICANS. THEY ALSO PURCHASED POLITICAL ADVERTISEMENTS ON SOCIAL MEDIA NETWORKS. THE RUSSIANS ALSO RECRUITED AND PAID REAL AMERICANS TO ENGAGE IN POLITICAL ACTIVITIES, PROMOTE POLITICAL CAMPAIGNS, AND STAGE POLITICAL RALLIES. THE DEFENDANTS AND CO-CONSPIRATORS PRETENDED TO BE GRASSROOTS ACTIVISTS. THE AMERICANS DID NOT KNOW THEY WERE COMMUNICATING WITH RUSSIANS, ACCORDING TO THE INDICTMENT. AFTER THE ELECTION, THE DEFENDANTS ALLEGEDLY STAGED RALLIES TO SUPPORT THE PRESIDENT WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY STAGING RALLIES TO PROTEST HIS ELECTION. FOR EXAMPLE, THE DEFENDANTS ORGANIZED ONE RALLY TO SUPPORT THE PRESIDENT-ELECT AND ANOTHER RALLY TO OPPOSE HIM, BOTH IN NEW YORK ON THE SAME DAY. ON SEPTEMBER 13, 2017, SOON AFTER THE NEWS MEDIA REPORTED THAT THE SPECIAL COUNSEL'S OFFICE WAS INVESTIGATING EVIDENCE THAT RUSSIAN OPERATIVES USE SOCIAL MEDIA TO INTERFERE WITH THE 2016 ELECTION, ONE DEFENDANT ALLEGEDLY WROTE, "WE HAD A SLIGHT CRISIS HERE AT WORK. THE FBI BUSTED OUR ACTIVITY, SO I GOT PREOCCUPIED WITH COVERING TRACKS TOGETHER WITH MY COLLEAGUES." THE INDICTMENT INCLUDES EIGHT CRIMINAL COUNTS. COUNT ONE ALLEGES A CRIMINAL CONSPIRACY TO FRAUD THE UNITED STATES, ALL OF THE DEFENDANTS. THEY ALLEGEDLY CONSPIRED TO DEFRAUD AMERICA BY IMPAIRING THE LAWFUL FUNCTIONS OF THE FEDERAL ELECTION COMMISSION, THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, AND THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE. THOSE ORGANIZATIONS OF THE U.S. GOVERNMENT ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ADMINISTERING FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS FOR DISCLOSURE OF FOREIGN INVOLVEMENT IN CERTAIN DOMESTIC ACTIVITIES. COUNT TWO CHARGES CONSPIRACY TO COMMIT WIRE FRAUD AND BANK FRAUD BY INTERNET RESEARCH AGENCY AND TWO OF THE INDIVIDUAL DEFENDANTS. THREE THROUGH EIGHT CHARGE AGGRAVATED IDENTITY THEFT BY INTERNET RESEARCH AGENCY AND FOUR OF THE DEFENDANTS. THERE IS NO ALLEGATION IN THIS INDICTMENT THAT ANY AMERICAN WAS A KNOWING PARTICIPANT IN THIS ILLEGAL ACTIVITY. THERE IS NO ALLEGATION IN THE INDICTMENT THAT THE CHARGE ALTERED THE OUTCOME OF THE 2016 ELECTION. I WANT TO CAUTION YOU THAT EVERYONE CHARGED WITH A CRIME IS PRESUMED INNOCENT UNLESS AND UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY IN COURT. A TRIAL, PROSECUTORS WAS INTRODUCED GRETEL EVIDENCE SUFFICIENT TO PROVE EACH DEFENDANT GUILTY BEYOND ANY REASONABLE DOUBT TO A UNANIMOUS JURY. THE SPECIAL COUNSEL'S INVESTIGATION WAS ONGOING. THERE WILL BE NO COMMENTS FROM THE SPECIAL COUNSEL AT THIS TIME. THIS INDICTMENT SERVES AS A REMINDER THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT ALWAYS WHO THEY APPEAR TO BE. THE INDICTMENT ALLEGES THAT THE RUSSIAN CONSPIRATORS